Feb 6, 2007

A Tuesday rant

I went to the gym last night. When I went into the locker room, I saw thousands of women just walking around naked. They were in the sauna, the whirlpool, brushing their hair....they were everywhere!

I couldn't get away from them!

All right. Maybe it wasn't thousands. Maybe it was more like 5 or 6. But I'm telling ya, seeing one is too many.

So I must ask, what happened to modesty?

I'm trying to think of a verse to defend my position...but I can't think of one. Maybe someone out there can help me? I know most people would say it's fine as long as it is with the same gender...but come on!

Am I alone in my rant?


ann_in_grace said...

You are not alone. I am twice as old as You, and can sympathize with you on this. Just a plain use of a towel could help, but they do not care.
And, I tell You, sweden is ten times worse than America in that respect.
Topless on the beach is a norm here.

Stan said...

Modesty is a largely social convention. (Think African native women.) The modesty of which you speak is "Observing conventional proprieties in speech, behavior, or dress." Thus, it depends on what the norm is as to what is a "conventional propriety".

In Scripture it calls for women to be modest. That, unfortunately, is a moving target. I remember as a junior high kid in a Christian school telling my teacher (who knew my older sister), "When the rest of the world is going naked, my sister will be in a bikini." I don't remember the context. I do remember Mrs. Proud's response -- shock and mild amusement. But the point is that sometimes we are called to operate in a different plane of "modesty" and even "morality". Don't expect the world around you to go along.

Laurie said...

I love your "Tuesday Rant"!! I wish this was discussed more often among woman, young as well as older.

Proverbs 11:22 ~
Like a gold ring in a pig’s snout is a beautiful woman who lacks discretion.

1 tn Heb “a ring of gold.” The noun זָהָב (zahav, “gold”) is a genitive of material; the ring is made out of gold.
2 tn Heb “in a snout of a swine.” A beautiful ornament and a pig are as incongruous as a beautiful woman who has no taste or ethical judgment.
3 tn The verb “is” does not appear in the Hebrew but is supplied in the translation for the sake of clarity and smoothness.
4 tn Heb “turns away [from].”
5 tn Heb “taste.” The term can refer to physical taste (Exod 16:31), intellectual discretion (1 Sam 25:33), or ethical judgment (Ps 119:66). Here it probably means that she has no moral sensibility, no propriety, no good taste – she is unchaste. Her beauty will be put to wrong uses.

Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful and beauty is fleeting,
but a woman who fears the Lord will be praised.

Ezekiel 16:15-22~
“‘But you trusted in your beauty and capitalized on your fame by becoming a prostitute. You offered your sexual favors to every man who passed by so that your beauty became his. 16:16 You took some of your clothing and made for yourself decorated high places; you engaged in prostitution on them. You went to him to become his. 16:17 You also took your beautiful jewelry, made of my gold and my silver I had given to you, and made for yourself male images and engaged in prostitution with them. 16:18 You took your embroidered clothing and used it to cover them; you offered my olive oil and my incense to them. 16:19 As for my food that I gave you – the fine flour, olive oil, and honey I fed you – you placed it before them as a soothing aroma. That is exactly what happened, declares the sovereign Lord.
16:20 “‘You took your sons and your daughters whom you bore to me and you sacrificed them as food for the idols to eat. As if your prostitution not enough, 16:21 you slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols. 16:22And with all your abominable practices and prostitution you did not remember the days of your youth when you were naked and bare, kicking around in your blood.

1 Peter 3:2
…as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior.

Greek word for chaste ~ Hagnos
exciting reverence, venerable, sacred
pure from carnality, chaste, modest
pure from every fault, immaculate

Anonymous said...


I really disagree to your thoughts about God. You take a Calvinists view, that God picks those who go to hell. Hell, that means if God ORDAINS EVERYTHING, what about original sin my dear. That is one thing Piper has got wrong and Greg Boyd has correct. That we have free will. Send me a mail at my blog: http://againstjohnpiper.wordpress.com/ OR my email at lonnboles@gmail.com

amy said...

Sam-- I totally agree- I don't go to a gym--but I also think even the subtle half coverage is bad--like shirts that don't fully cover a gal's stomach or how about that new style of guy's wearing their jeans so far down that you see their boxers. Where's the decency? And why do women wear shirts that show all that cleavage? Do we not have respect for our vessels? The vessels that God entrusted us with. The verses above are awesome and say it all plainly. Ladies and Gentlemen--put some clothes on!

Samantha said...

Agreed Amy. I'm totally with ya!

And Laurie! Great verses. :D I am lucky to have so many godly sisters and brothers!

And whiterabbit: maybe when I post something pertaining to Calvinism we can discuss. Otherwise, the topic is modesty ;)

Hal said...

LOL! I was reading your rant and then saw this headline:

Gym Offers Nude Workout Days.

Be thankful you don't work out at this gym.

Apparently modesty is out the door there.

Samantha said...

THANK GOD I live in MN!